Tourist Scams in Bangkok Print E-mail
Written by Richard Barrow   
Wednesday, 11 April 2007

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A scammer offering you a bath at Wat Inthawawihan

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I have been to Bangkok many times. I have heard people talk about all these scams but I have never once knowingly been scammed. The place where I parked the car on Sunday with our Steve was exactly where I have parked before. It is my base for exploring the area. I then either walk or go by tuk tuk. Never have I been approached by scam artists. I went there with Steve, we took about a dozen steps away from the car and then the vultures starting swooping in for the kill. As one guy was showing Steve places on the map, I could see other scammers circling in the distance. For the following three hours we just went from one scam to the next. It was relentless. So, why this sudden interest? Did we have a sign above our heads that said something like “fresh off the boat”? I of course blame our Steve. He was so dressed the part as a tourist. Cap, t-shirt, sunglasses, shorts and rucksack. But, I think the clincher was the map. I don’t think they would have approached us if Steve wasn’t holding a map. This was an essential prop to their scam. They needed to give us suggestions of different places we could visit. The only thing that we didn’t have was a piece of paper. For some reason all of them wanted to write these destinations down for us.

Recently, Steve gave us a rundown of  The Great Tuk Tuk Scam. What I will do today is give you some of the side-scams. The first one was at Wat Inthawawihan. This has a large 32 metre high Standing Buddha. The scammers call this place the Big Buddha. I hadn’t been to that place for a long time. Although the Buddha image was beautiful (and around the back there was an interesting row of Buddhas for each day of the week) I will now boycott this temple. Why? Because it is a scammers temple. Take a look at the sign in the top picture. Release the birds in the cage for 90 baht. He must be joking. At the most it should be 20 baht. But, that is beside the point. If you ever go to a temple, please do not pay money to release birds or fish. This is cruelty to the highest extreme. Many abbots of temples have banned these people from their grounds. This is not a Buddhist practice. You are supposed to be making merit by releasing the birds. But, by doing so, you are encouraging this vendor to catch and cage more wild animals. The abbot of Wat Inthawaihan should be ashamed of himself. Not only allowing this vendor to be on his grounds, but allowing this scam artist to trick foreigners into paying 90 baht. I am sorry, but I feel very strongly on this matter.

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No Photo, I am the Security Guard – Wat Sitaram

Not far from the Golden Mount, there is a temple hidden away that goes by the name of Wat Sitaram. I was pleasantly surprised at the beauty of the Buddha images here. I was happily snapping away when this seedy little guy approached us. His English was quite good which is always a giveaway. SCAM ARTIST 100%. The second clue is that Thai people do not usually approach complete strangers in the street. He was quite friendly at first and explained a few rules. He said he was the security guard and that as we weren’t Buddhists we weren’t allowed to take any photos. I was perplexed and said to him that I have never been to a temple where you weren’t allowed to take photos in the temple grounds. I said, where does it say you cannot take a photo? He then pointed to a sign behind me. Now, I have taken pictures of hundreds of signs for our LearningThai.com website. I have seen many signs that say “no photos” in Thai. This one most definitely was not saying that. In fact it was talking about Dharma. So, I took a quick photo for later reference. Then the guy got angry and said, “I told you not to take pictures.”

I think by this time he realized there was something suspicious about us. We had deviated away from the script. This guy was supposed to befriend us and mention that by chance there was a one day sale at the local government run tailor/gem shop. “Oh really?”, we were supposed to reply. “What a coincidence, our tuk tuk driver was about to take us there. You know, at first we thought the tuk tuk guy was scamming us, but as you are saying the same thing then in must be true.” Then he would have said, “Well, you better not delay in this temple much longer taking pictures, you should rush to the government run tailor shop before they close. They are only open once a year.” I am sorry, but this guy was so extremely rude to us. I have never met anyone like him in my life. This guy was a scammer big time and this temple was his lair. If the abbot knows about this scammer then he should be ashamed of himself. I really want to go back to this temple, but I honestly think that the only way that I can avoid this guy is if I speak Thai to him.

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The Bird Lady giving Steve the Victory Sign

For the first two hours, we were being scammed almost non-stop. Not only by the tuk tuk driver with his broken promises and outright lies, but scam artists that we met along the way. And amongst them I do include the tailor shop and the jewelry shop that we visited. Scammers the whole lot of them. They all should be ashamed. Anyway, we finally managed to persuade the guy to take us to the Grand Palace. The last time I came here from the place where I parked my car it was about 40 baht in a tuk tuk. Today it cost only 10 baht. Of course, we had a slight deviation away from the route which took us two hours. But, along the way we visited two temples, had some refreshments (we could have had a cold beer apparently), and had the run of some really nice toilet facilities. Not so bad, until we later found out that we were scammed. Another tuk tuk driver later offered the same “scam tour” for only 5 baht! Of course, they probably would have done it for free as they were only interested in getting their fat commission for taking us to these shops.

Anyway, moving on. I was a bit tired by this time and wanted a break before the next scam. I think we walked literally two steps before we were thrown into the middle of the next scam. This involved the Bird Lady. I think I was sill a little dazed from our previous scam so didn’t really understand why this fat lady kept thrusting half empty bags of bird food into my hands. She then gestured for me to feed the birds. I thought rather strange. Maybe this was a Thai custom of welcome to foreigners to the palace of His Majesty the King. So, I took her advice and scattered a few seeds on the floor. “More, more,” she encouraged us. Steve didn’t really want anything to do with her as she was getting really pushy. So, in the end, just to make her happy, I took the little plastic bags and threw the contents to her birds on the ground. I then gave back to her the bags and we started to walk on towards the Palace. “Twenty baht. You give me Twenty baht!” Oh what. You must be kidding. Can’t we at least have a short break between scams? The only way we got rid of her in the end was when I started taking pictures of her. That is when she started swearing at us in Thai. I would like to remind you again that all of this was happening in front of the Grand Palace.

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Don’t tell anyone else, I can give you special price of only 1,000 baht each

We darted across the road and were immediately confronted by people selling oriental umbrellas. “400 baht. Only 400 baht for you Madame.” No thank, you. And anyway, I am not Madame, I am Mister. I smiled at her. “OK, I like your smile. For you, only 300 baht.” No, it is alright, I am really not interested. “Mister, I need to buy milk for my baby.” Then about 100 metres further down the road she said, “Alright, I give you special price Mister. 150 baht.” By this time I was tired and hungry. I said to Steve lets go and get something to eat near the pier. Two more steps and then “Boat mister, you want a boat. Only 1,000 baht each person.” As there were two of us, this meant 2,000 baht. As you know, I was here the other week with my brother and we paid 600 for the both of us. I told Steve that I wanted to check this out as for some reason the prices seemed much higher than what I had been told before. Maybe because we were still only speaking English. I said “no” to this guy and kept walking.

Up front I spotted another women that seemed to be herding us towards the right hand side of the pier. She hadn’t actually approached us yet, but as she kept glancing back I knew she was a scammer. I whispered to Steve to quickly do a left turn to see what she would do. “Mister, mister, you cannot go that way!” I thought she must be joking. There were two entrances to the pier. I could choose either. “You no go that way. That is one way.” That was absolute rubbish and a complete lie. She just wanted to stop us going to a rival boat owner. I had enough by this time. There were too many scams one after the other. Each one was very much in our faces. I told Steve that we need to break cover if only for a lunch break. So, we found a nice little food shop near the pier, and Steve, in perfect colloquial Thai, ordered us some lunch. I asked how much for two dishes ove the rice and we were told “30 baht”. That sounded about right. At last we could relax. We really needed to recharge our batteries as we were about to walk the complete perimeter of the Grand Palace.

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The Grand Palace is closed at the moment, I will take you to these other places first and then when you come back at 3 p.m. you will see that the Grand Palace is free!

Now, before I continue, I just want to pause and say that not all Thai people here are scam artists. In two different locations I asked a couple of vendors in English how much a bottle of water was. They both said “10 baht” which is a fair price. There is hope left. Now let’s continue with the scams. We were first approached near the exit to the Grand Palace. As the scammer was busy telling Steve that the Grand Palace was closed today I snapped a few photos of a sign next to him that said in English and Thai: “Don’t trust strangers. The Grand Palace is open every day.” He then proceeded to tell us about the Big Buddha and the Lucky Buddha. He said he could arrange for 40 baht to take us there and then bring us back here at 3 p.m. when the Grand Palace would be opened for free! Wow! We carried on walking. Fifty steps later and we had another similar offer. This was right in front of the palace. Hey dude, I am not blind, I can see people going inside! Do you think we look stupid or something? We carried on walking because Steve was trying to find a jewelry scam guy.

The third and fourth scammer said much the same. Apparently we were in luck because the Big Buddha is only open this one day of the year. We declined all of their offers because they wanted to take us to the same places we had just been to. We were now walking down the east side of the Grand Palace towards Wat Pho. In the distance Steve spotted a smart guy in a shirt and tie. This looked like the gem shop scammer. As we approached him Steve got out his map hoping to get a bite. No luck. It then dawned on us. We were the wrong kind of tourists. We were too shabbily dressed. This guy was only looking for big spenders for the gem shops. Not backpackers. When we rounded the corner of the Grand Palace, the story of the scammers changed slightly. “Today Wat Pho closed for special ceremony. You go to Lucky Buddha. It is only open this one day.” We kept on walking around the next corner and back towards our starting point. The first scammer on this side pointed to a closed door and said “Look see the Grand Palace is closed today.” Yeah right. This is the private entrance.

I think by this time we were both really annoyed by the utter contempt and lies that were spewing out of the mouths of these guys. They called themselves Thais but were lying about the palace of their revered King. Did they not have any respect for H.M. The King? Shame on them all. At this last one, in the picture above, I whispered to Steve to keep this guy busy while I went and had a chat in Thai with the soldier on guard duty. I asked him if the Grand Palace was really closed today. He said no, it is open. Then I said, why is that guy over there saying that it is closed? Is he lying? Then for some treason he started getting nervous and changed his story. The Grand Palace is closed today, he said. Are you sure? Then he told me to go and speak to his supervisor. However, by that time the scammer knew the game was up and had already departed. Steve said that he had spotted me talking to the guard and quickly changed his tact to being a helpful stranger who was just giving directions. Shame on that soldier for not stopping what was so obviously a scam.

This is not a new phenomenon. These exact scams have been going on here for many years. Everyone knows about it. The Tourist Authority of Thailand knows about it. But the soldiers on duty and the TAT allow it to continue. Shame on them all. I feel so sorry for the tourists who come here on their last day only to be told that the Grand Palace is closed. And then they are taken on a wild ride to some shameful temples and scamming shops. I am sorry, but this day was so distressing and overpowering. None of these so called Thai people had any respect for H.M. The King. How dare they stand in front and lie to tourists that his Grand Palace is closed. Something must be done. Will it? Sadly, it is very doubtful.

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written by Brian, May 01, 2008
Holy crap, that was my wife and I to a "T". The Tuk Tuk driver did admit that if we visited the gem shop and the tailor he would get gas coupons. We did ignore most of the advances but we did miss out on seeing the reclining Buddha as it was closed. dam them.
Still had a good time though.
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written by Janet, June 14, 2008
Yes, sounds like our trip too! My husband and I were on our honeymoon and had a short stopover of 3 days in Bangkok. Not realising just how big Bangkok really was, we thought to walk about using a map - wrong idea! Two fair headed people walking around lost in Bangokok - mmm!! We were harrassed constantly by random people on the streets telling us to avoid the main tourist places and about how they could arrange a cheap tuk tuk driver to take us to other temples and as a bonus they would tell us of a cheap tailer shop called Voglee who supplied Armani suits - yeah right! Our heads were tortured and with the heat we were getting very tired so since we where pretty darn lost and it was getting later we thought we would give it a go just for the one day and if it didnt work out we had two more days to see the sites. We went on the "their" tour round Bangkok for just 30baht - what a bargain and visited these other temples, they were ok but not half as great as they made out - definitely not as good as the grand palace. As the tour went on we were getting more sceptical and could smell a scam set up. After visiting the temples we were parked outside the Voglee store with the tuk tuk driver begging us to go in as he would get gas credit! So we thought sod it we will check it out for 5min. Just in the door and swarmed by tailers they tried to sell us 3 suits to my husband for about 750 US dollars (he works on a building site and would never wear one). Thank goodness we had the wit not to buy anything but talk about a hassel to get out of there! We laugh when we look back on it now though! We went to the Grand Palace the next day and amazingly managed to ignore all who tried to approach us. It's kinda awful when you think about it cause we know there are a lot of genuine nice thai people out there, but when you get that kind of misleading harrassment of the scammers it can give a real bad impression on their country and make a lotta foreigners miss out on seeing the sites which can ruin their holidays - shame on them!
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written by Impotatant Tip!, July 26, 2008
Tourist must study all Thailand scams before they visit Thailand. If you did a took little time to study a few thai words, places, you usually encounter thai scams all over the internet. These are tourist who did not take the time to save money with a little Thai scam education. SHAME ON THEM! Lack of studies expect thai scam artist to scam you.
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written by Must Study Country U Visit!, July 26, 2008
If no study thai scams, you to will be thai scam victim. If you educate yourself well ahead of schedule, you to will be prepare for thai scam artist. Good luk, and Welcome to thailand. DON'T BE SCAM BY THAI SCAM ARTIST. YOU KEEP WALK.
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written by Must Study Country U Visit!, July 26, 2008
Mai Dai Khrap, Kop Khun Krap. You Keep Walk gran Place.
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written by J.cy, August 21, 2008
I plan to go to Bangkok in this October.....It's my 1st trip there... I hope that I can avoid the "Thai Scam"... It's too scary... smilies/angry.gif
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written by Ties, December 06, 2008
Scamers should be a shame of themselves but honestly some people are a bit naive in my opinion.

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written by Vincent Lynch, December 08, 2008
LOL...I fell for the bird lady scam in 2007! I was so dumb! I've visited Thailand well over a dozen times and should no better. But, I was walking along by Wat Mahatat and she stuffed a bag of food in my hand and practically ordered me to feed the birds. I innocently did...then more and more bird food. And finally the demand for 100 baht (I guess I really looked like a dope). I refused and gave her 20 baht. Then her "boss" came over. By that time, I was much more alert and thinking. After much arguing I finally began yelling, "Kamoy, kamoy!" They began to run like hell! :-)
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written by JJ, January 08, 2009
yeah you good to eat nice thai food. Scam with Gamba ya man -legalize it innit
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written by Ken, April 02, 2009
ok, sure there are scammers, but guys, use your heads. I have been backpacking around the world, and common sense should prevail. My advice, always use a taxi with his metor. never ask 'how much' and have fun. Most of the people I have met that got scammed, simple weren't paying attention to the obvious. If is sounds fake, or unreal, or too good to be true.....you know the rest.
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written by Chandra Wijaya, April 20, 2009
I will go to Bangkok next month. Thanks for alert everybody about this scams tricks. So we'll be aware of these things. I heard so many scams in Bangkok, so i'll search in the internet 1st every place that scams target in Bangkok.

Thanks again for your article.
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Chandra Wijaya
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written by Lia Yulianty, April 20, 2009
I search around in the internet about Bangkok. Me and my husband will traveling there soon. I heard this kind of scams too. To bad peoples in Bangkok do anything bad to get big money smilies/sad.gif
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http://lyulianty.com
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written by C Siam, May 12, 2009
The tourist police are running these scams. Google for tourist mafia grand palace.
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written by You cheapskates, May 25, 2009
100 baht, that's, what, less than $3 you're begrudging giving these people ...
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written by Pepito Sbazzeguti, June 02, 2009
Scammers can go to hell... i only like bitches in BKK

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written by dave, July 01, 2009
i am such a fool,the voglee scam just done me.going for a fitting tomorrow,i will see how the 'cashmere suits' turn out!!,i am so stupid....i though i was switched on,but it seemed like independant sources were confirming that voglee made armani suits...ashamed at my stupidity...i need a large strong drink!
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written by rory, July 29, 2009
have a voglee fitting tommorrow, paid 4,000 B deposit today for two suits. we're gonna be taking a lot of photos of the place and suits and asking an awful lot of questions.
also, to all those smug people who post on here saying 'use your head' and 'ive been backpacking around the world' - shut up. anyone can be scammed, be it for 50baht or 15,000, and it seems the thais are pretty good at it. tho the voglee lot were indian.
we'll see tommorrow.
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written by bpslp, August 05, 2009
Yes---we gpt sucked into the Voglee scam as well. I felt it a bit suspicious, but my husband said there was no way there could be a nice guy in from of the Paragon, an innocent local attorney waiting for his mom at the temple, etc.....all telling us about the one day sale and how great Voglee tailors are. Well, we bought so much I am ashamed to admit it as they are excellent salesmen. 4 suits, 5 shirts, and a skirt later (42,000 baht!) I cried all afternoon and called the tailor to cancel the order. But it had already been posted to my card in 3 hours, and they could not cancel it. Luckily, I did get my merchandise in the mail today and I never thought the fabric was lightweight cashmere wool, but they do look nice, fit well, and did arrive quickly. So, yes, we too got scammed but luckily have some nice fitting suits of some fabric that I'm not sure of. Take care as many in Asia are out to earn a buck by any means. BTW, we had drinks, food, etc. and were treated well. The stories I have read fit us to a "T".
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written by Bernard Sim, September 22, 2009
I met the same guy that told you no photo taking in the temple. Today, he told me that he is working nearby and he don't have much time. He told me that Thailand has 3 main exports, the third being rice, second being Silks and the main export, you gussed it "Gems/ stones". He said that today there is a exhibtion on stones, I immediately knew that he was trying to scam me. Anyway, I told him that I was not intersted and walked away.

I actually met 3 scammers in 1 hr, all having the same modus operandi. The authorities should really put a stop to all these. Its tarnishing Thailand's image.
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written by Guylene Horiachka, November 01, 2009
We were approached several times by scam artists...One guy hangs out in front of Robinson's store and prays on people who are looking for a ride on tuk tuk or taxi. He is well dressed and pretends to be there by happenstance. We took a tuk tuk who told us the shopping mall we wanted to go to is closed. He took us to a temple with a lying budda. There, we were scammed for money from a guy who made us pay to get in the temple 20 bath each...I knew it was a scam but I thought: 'ah well, its only 40 bath...just pennies...whatever...but then, we went to another temple, where a man said he was from SanFrancisco. He told us about a 1 day only sale...then i started getting suspicious and we left.
Please; don't take tuk tuks until you get a clear answer as to where you are going and how much you are paying. If he doesn't clearly understand, don't take the tuk tuk. If the license is yellow, it is company owned, if its white it is private. As for taxi, do not enter the taxi unless the meter works and has been started at 35 bath. Don't take a taxi if the driver doesn't know where he is going. Taxi drivers often pretend they don't know where they are going to scam you. They will go around a block and come back, when the way is a straight line...
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written by Rory, November 20, 2009
"JUST THINK" Would you listen to these scammers in London,New york or at your mothers funeral ? Well,if you buy snow from Eskimos or sand from Arabs.
Scams are even in the same street where you live.Think of them as advertising themselfs as theives,a big give away.
I know there is always a smart one,who gets you.
Thanks
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written by David Jackson, December 21, 2009
This must have been a very different experience for you both. Luckily, I got my booking done through a good website and they gave us a guest-friendly beautiful discount hotel in Bangkok. They also told us to pick up a travel guide with shopping information and we set off on a huge sightseeing tour. We did shop quite a bit as we got to save tons of money and enjoyed our stay as we paid much, much lesser than other walk-in guests.
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written by gabby, January 31, 2010
I'll be going there by June I hope it won't happen to us :-
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written by Michie, March 07, 2010
My Husband and I travelled a fare amount of places and we were scarmmed non-stop. These are the risks of travelling in Canada we don't have this as much and therefore we think everyother Country should be like Canada.
I loved Thailand and we were scammed with the exact scenario with Voglee Export Tailors. We did buy 3 suits and they had them shipped right to Abu Dhabi where we lived at the time. They were there when got back. Scepticle of the quality, I was impressed with them and my husband too. We could never purchase suits like these in Canada for that cheap. When you only have two weeks I did not want to be shopping for suits. I was roped in and scammed. The Tuk Tuk also took us to the Grand Palace but to an entrance in the back, not the main one and told us it was closed. Live and Learn! :-
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written by dealwithit, March 09, 2010
Whats all this they should be ashamed? What they should do is feed their kids and make a living. You got scammed out of 40 bhat ($1.05) because you didnt take the time to study where you were going. They did not force you, harm you or rob you at gun point. They should be ashamed? You should be ashamed at thinking that the Thai cop of soilder is a) paid enough to do anything beside stop you from being physically harmed or b) not getting a cut of the profits in return for turning a blind eye. self righteous bs

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